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Ca$h Racing Association Member Posts: 982	2015 Rule Changes Nov 29, 2014 12:25:32 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Ca$h Racing on Nov 29, 2014 12:25:32 GMT -5 Guys/Gals 2015 rule changes are denoted in Green Terry

BSB Racing Association Member I didn't have the best childhood.....but, I did have the longest! Posts: 829	2015 Rule Changes Nov 29, 2014 12:50:15 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by BSB Racing on Nov 29, 2014 12:50:15 GMT -5 Will the ultra lite mod be in place of mod or in addition to mod?

Ca$h Racing Association Member Posts: 982	2015 Rule Changes Nov 29, 2014 12:55:28 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Ca$h Racing on Nov 29, 2014 12:55:28 GMT -5 Addition, new class for 2015 season!

Theros Association Member Posts: 377 Mood: Part Of The APR Family!!	2015 Rule Changes Nov 29, 2014 20:48:17 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Theros on Nov 29, 2014 20:48:17 GMT -5 Nov 29, 2014 12:25:32 GMT -5 Ca$h Racing said: Guys/Gals 2015 rule changes are denoted in Green I like the rule changes for wheels and axles in the 2 gram classes.

J & J Association Member Posts: 773 Mood: APR Rules!!	2015 Rule Changes Nov 30, 2014 10:36:47 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by J & J on Nov 30, 2014 10:36:47 GMT -5 Nov 29, 2014 12:25:32 GMT -5 Ca$h Racing said: Guys/Gals 2015 rule changes are denoted in Green Terry My pro pure stock cars at the cannon ball race weighed 141.7 or less doesn't seem to hurt much.
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2015 Rule Changes Dec 1, 2014 16:31:30 GMT -5

Post by 3N1 Racing on Dec 1, 2014 16:31:30 GMT -5

I need an explanation.... Can someone explain a "Pin" type axle? Needle, nail, straight, bearing and headless I am good with but I don't see how a "Pin" type axle is large enough to have a .084 diameter.

Also, who sells custom wheels that are 7.5mm wide and weighs 2 grams? Better yet, how much would those cost?
My guess is I will be sticking to the big axles and wheels until I can get a lathe.

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2015 Rule Changes Dec 1, 2014 18:19:57 GMT -5

Post by BSB Racing on Dec 1, 2014 18:19:57 GMT -5

Dec 1, 2014 16:31:30 GMT -5 3N1 Racing said:

I need an explanation.... Can someone explain a "Pin" type axle? Needle, nail, straight, bearing and headless I am good with but I don't see how a "Pin" type axle is large enough to have a .084 diameter.

Also, who sells custom wheels that are 7.5mm wide and weighs 2 grams? Better yet, how much would those cost?
My guess is I will be sticking to the big axles and wheels until I can get a lathe.

"PIN" is just that a "PIN" it says in the rules...........Axles (open) when it says open, that means it can be any diameter.

"NEEDLE" is very small diameter shaft used for an axle.....It could be music wire, a gauge pin, a drill blank. They are fast, but the downside is they are hard to proxy race due to breakage. You have a 2 gram wheel sitting on that tiny shaft and when the USPS throws the box it's not the throwing the box that breaks the axle it's the sudden stop that snaps them. They tend to shear off at the end of the wheel closest to the body.

"NAIL" is your standard BSA type axle.

"STRAIGHT" axle is usually referring to the rear axle and needs some sort of retainer to hold on the wheel.

"BEARING" Is what is run in Super Pro Mod .....usually it's a .156 diameter flanged ball bearing with an .047 inside diameter that mounts on an .047 diameter shaft (axle)

"HEADLESS" Means no head. It needs some type of retainer to take the place of the axle head to hold the wheel in place.

I make custom 2 gram wheels.............however I am NOT selling any wheels. I cannot in good conscience sell wheels with bushings and garauntee they will be fast. It only takes a matter of .0005 too little clearance and they won't perform as expected. I have recently found that out from a customer. You cannot imagine the time and effort that has to take place for those wheels to be fast. I was selling them for $15 a piece, but no more.

I know this is a lengthy post and I hope it helps to answer your questions 3n1..............

Last Edit: Dec 1, 2014 18:24:51 GMT -5 by BSB Racing

Ca$h Racing Association Member Posts: 982	2015 Rule Changes Dec 1, 2014 18:53:17 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Ca$h Racing on Dec 1, 2014 18:53:17 GMT -5 Bill, very good explanation!!

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2015 Rule Changes Dec 1, 2014 18:59:54 GMT -5

Post by 3N1 Racing on Dec 1, 2014 18:59:54 GMT -5

Thanks Bill. It was lengthy but informative.

I missed the "Open" part on a few of the classes but for Pro Pure Stock for example, it does not say open, but we can use Nail, Pin, Headless, or Straight axles. So long as they are .084 in diameter. This is what threw me for a loop.

What I understood is that a Pin axle would be similar in size to bearing axles (.047 ish) but not as small as needle axles. I am confused as to the diameter of a Pin axle, I think.

Theros Association Member Posts: 377 Mood: Part Of The APR Family!!	2015 Rule Changes Dec 1, 2014 19:51:47 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Theros on Dec 1, 2014 19:51:47 GMT -5 Would an AWANA axle qualify as a pin axle?

Ca$h Racing Association Member Posts: 982	2015 Rule Changes Dec 2, 2014 5:15:56 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Ca$h Racing on Dec 2, 2014 5:15:56 GMT -5 Theros, you can use Awana axles in any 2.0 gram class.

2015 Rule Changes

Post by Ca$h Racing on Nov 29, 2014 12:25:32 GMT -5

Post by BSB Racing on Nov 29, 2014 12:50:15 GMT -5

Post by Ca$h Racing on Nov 29, 2014 12:55:28 GMT -5

Post by Theros on Nov 29, 2014 20:48:17 GMT -5

Post by J & J on Nov 30, 2014 10:36:47 GMT -5

Post by 3N1 Racing on Dec 1, 2014 16:31:30 GMT -5

Post by BSB Racing on Dec 1, 2014 18:19:57 GMT -5

Post by Ca$h Racing on Dec 1, 2014 18:53:17 GMT -5

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Post by Theros on Dec 1, 2014 19:51:47 GMT -5

Post by Ca$h Racing on Dec 2, 2014 5:15:56 GMT -5

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